There is no need for you to refute, those two sentences are self-contradictory. The “Universal Civilization Axioms” mentioned by Three Body 2 are: 1. Survival is the first need of civilization. 2. Civilization continues to grow and expand, but the total amount of matter in the universe remains unchanged. The author Liu Cixin did not stick to “These are the truths.” In terms of the law of the dark forest, Three Body 3 tells the readers straightforwardly: the dark forest is only shallow and partial. The reality itself does not support the “universal civilization axioms”, and there are internal contradictions between these two axioms: First, survival is not the first need of civilization. The purpose of living beings is to live forever, and civilization is not a living thing, it is a movement pattern of living things. Civilization may have the first need beyond this, or there may be no need. In fact, the second clause of the above-mentioned “axiom” is either contrary to survival or contradictory: if the reach of civilization is limited, the result of continuous growth and expansion is rapid death, just like bacteria in a petri dish That way; if the reach of civilization is infinite, there is no “total amount of matter in the universe remains the same.” This is a reasoning that can be carried out without a conclusion, nor does it prevent you from exploring space or destroying other creatures, but if you want a long-term existence, while destroying other creatures, should you consider controlling population and dismantling? Stars, adjust the angular momentum of the galaxy, save all the resources that can be saved, and try to develop the first type of perpetual motion machine instead of spending it in “growth”. So these two “axes” cannot coexist in any case. If survival is really the first need, civilizations that do not have the ability to create energy from nothing or reach infinite realms should stop the total growth and expansion as much as possible, and find improvements without increasing total energy consumption. Technology or physical ability methods. In reality, some of the sulfur bacteria we found in the depths of the ground split once every thousands of years, repairing their bodies extremely well, which can be used as a reference. 2. Civilization may not continue to grow and expand, and the total amount of matter in the universe is not constant. “Civilization continues to grow and expand” has many counterexamples on the earth. To what age have the civilizations of Babylon, Ancient Egypt, Ancient Greece, and Ancient Rome developed? How much has the total power of ants and termites increased in the past 120 million years? The observational facts have proved that dark energy is growing endlessly. The expansion of the universe is accelerating. If this growth trend accelerates further without transforming dark energy into energy or creating mass to counteract it, then time and space will crush all baryonic matter. Whether in reality or in the three-body series, the reason why a life thinks that resources are limited is that it is limited by its own ability to use resources. For example, we don’t know how to use dark energy or how to effectively use zero point energy. The non-technical part of the earth’s biosphere is even more obvious: the sun’s current input of light energy to the earth is 4,325 times the total photosynthetic power of the earth’s biosphere. As the output of the sun is gradually rising, the growth of light energy in the next billion years will not only exceed what the earth’s biosphere can consume, but will also exceed what the earth’s carbon-based life can tolerate. The long-term result of “resources growing faster than life can consume” is that life will be temporarily extinct, waiting for the next occurrence . The existence of a universe around us, or at least the existence of “I”, rather than absolute nothingness, means that the universe can either be created from nothing, or it has existed for eternal time and will never be destroyed. Both of these mean that the total amount of time, space, matter, energy, and information in the multiverse can be as much as anything. The “Law of the Dark Forest” is also untenable in reality. In the sky, we have observed many obviously abnormal cosmic structures, which seem to be the products of civilization . On the ground, different groups of marching ants rarely attack each other. Many species of marching ants and red fire ants have mastered each other to bypass each other. The marching ants that first encountered the RIFA will soon know how to bypass each other. The option of “destroying the other party” is not necessary even for small bugs whose thinking ability is so primitive that they cannot discover the contradictions of these two “axes”, and their offensive capabilities are very developed.