If you are not picky about the city, the benefits of 54 are good, the salary you get is really good in Shijiazhuang, the housing prices are not so outrageous, the consumption level is moderate, and you don’t have to face the huge pressure of survival in first-tier cities. If you study military products or many national projects, many directions are sophisticated. You can focus on the research itself. You don’t know much about civilian products and you are not qualified to speak. In addition to individual project groups (such as 5G now), ZTE Huawei’s R&D work is not so high-level. The R&D direction is subject to market demand. More work is in customization and optimization, and is biased towards application. Non-research, the direction has to be led by the product line or marketing. In addition, the professional life expectancy is relatively long in the research institute. There is no mid-life crisis in ZTE Huawei. Although the research institute is developing on the road of restructuring, I think it will have little impact on the future development of the 54th Research Institute. But the disadvantage is that after entering this type of research institute, the way to change jobs in the future is relatively narrow. After all, technology is relatively boring and shackles. People in middle age want to experience another way of life or realize their self-worth in other aspects. , The research institute has limited options for jumping out. In addition, the research institute cannot escape the system, even if most of the technical people are relatively pure, the system cannot escape the siege, so you must consider whether your personality and value orientation are suitable for development within the system. For ZTE and Huawei, the biggest advantage is that the degree of freedom is relatively high. As long as your research direction is not too biased, the choice of job-hopping is still relatively wide, and the success rate of internal transfer is very high. For example, you have been doing research and development for several years and found that you are communicating. If you are talented in communication, you can use your technical background and communication skills to transfer to product lines or markets, do technical clarification, demand analysis, and it’s okay to travel at home and abroad, and project management. The direction is broad and not bad. And in the choice of city, there are many options. The second advantage is that you are more energetic. There are many young people and many leave. People around you will always change one crop after another, and will invisibly urge you to grow up. The third point is that the distribution system is more reasonable. Huawei has nothing to say, but ZTE is worse. Huawei really doesn’t care about you or it, you just get out if you don’t play work. ZTE has some shadows of state-owned enterprises, and there are still a little bit of stealing and slippery. It is inevitable that you will encounter related households in the research institute, especially the functional departments such as agencies. Many of them are arranged to come in with some backgrounds. They are lazy every day and you have to do research and hold code every day. The result is almost the same amount of money. Will it be unbalanced? The disadvantage of ZTE Huawei is that, first, you have to plan a very clear career for yourself. The brothers engaged in research and development eat youth rice. When they are thirty-five years old, 80% of them have to consider the issue of transformation. There are not many R&D experts who can reach the age of 40 or 50. If you have mediocre management skills and normal communication and dealings with people, you will probably feel worthless when you come to ZTE Huawei until you are 40 years old. If you continue to engage in front-line R&D, you may be too old and unable to do well, and you have not planned or managed. Ability, you can’t do management work, eloquence is not as sensitive as your brain, nor can you accurately deliver demand. Profit-seeking companies will squeeze your last bit of energy and throw you aside. So you have to keep thinking about your future plans, there is always a sense of crisis, of course, this kind of thing will have different effects on different people, some people enjoy this kind of pressure, some people don’t want to be bound by this kind of pressure . Second, when doing R&D at ZTE Huawei, you are a screw on the production line, and the module responsible is very single. If you happen to be classified as an unpopular or sunset product, it is still difficult to find a similar direction if you want to change jobs. . The third is that although going to ZTE and Huawei makes a lot of money on the surface, the pressure to survive is really great. The major research institutes are still in Shenzhen, Shanghai, Beijing, Guangzhou and Nanjing. Even if the annual salary is 20w, the salary will continue to increase year after year. How long will it take you to buy a house worth three to five million without relying on your home? If you go to 54 schools, buying a house is not a problem, and it is not difficult to buy a set after working for a long time to pick up your parents. Also, it is difficult to find someone. There are inherently few girls doing research and development, and the nature of the work determines the long working hours. The amateur life is relatively monotonous and there are few opportunities to contact girls. If you follow the blind date route, the attractiveness of ZTE Huawei’s work in first-tier cities will definitely not be higher than the attractiveness of your 54 local girls in Shijiazhuang. Of course there are objects that can be ignored. Fourth, the industry prospects. Civil communications has reached 5G, and no one can say what direction it will develop in the future. In recent years, despite the rise of the Internet of Things, 5G triumphant advancement, and prosperity, major domestic and even international operators have had a hard time, their profit margins have fallen, and they are all seeking reforms. They all say that the years after 18 years will be the communications field. In the cold winter of China, whether the entire industry will go toward the sunset or continue to flourish in the future is not good for everyone. This is a big unknown. In general, it depends on what kind of person you are and what kind of life you are suitable for. The two choices have their own strengths and their own worries. There is no standard answer. The two choices are two life directions that are quite different. Choose carefully. In the end, I didn’t listen. I read a few answers and felt very uncomfortable. Whether you are in the research institute or ZTE Huawei, answer a question, there is no need to fight against each other. Just tell the people at the crossroads of life what you know objectively. The choice is theirs. People are here to ask for help, not to watch the tears, and to say something well, it is not a debate contest. In the end, I worked at one of ZTE Huawei. My knowledge of the institute came from the narratives of classmates working in the institute. It may not be comprehensive enough or there are errors. I hope that the wrong place is my brother Haihan who works in the institute. +Correct.

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helpmekim
6 months ago

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After reading the opinions of many predecessors, I still rejected Huawei and chose 54. Let me listen to the call of my heart. After graduating in 2020, I joined the 54 network department. Briefly speaking about my situation, both undergraduates and masters are C9, yes, it is the university of technology, professional communication related, I have been thinking about Huawei or 54 from a very early time, so I worked overtime to complete the design, post articles, and go to Huawei for internship. . After two months of internship, I have gained a lot. To summarize briefly: I probably browsed the 2000+ wireless blogs I have permission to. I was shocked by Huawei’s technology (I discussed my master’s degree program 10 years ago) and Huawei’s technical atmosphere. Very good, there are a lot of big cows, often meeting to share technology, and fortunately to have heard a lecture by Tong Wen, the chief scientist of Huawei 5g, and came up to introduce him as one of the 5g standard setters. . . Huawei has a lot of money. As long as you are willing to work overtime, you have the ability to upgrade very quickly. My Huawei instructor has been upgraded to level 4 in 4 years. . . I graduated with a master’s degree in 4 years and are now in level 17. I guess that even the new master’s degree gave me about 30w. Huawei is not as tired as external rumors 996. Many people are resting or coming on week 6. I also went home at 5.30, because there is no free supper at 8.30 on Saturday night (except on 6th week at the end of the month, it is not mandatory to come), 124 people will work overtime, generally 10.30, because the taxi can be reimbursed at 10.30, and you can go if you have nothing to do. . Huawei’s pace is indeed fast, especially at this point in 2019 this year, the United States is suppressing my internship. I can clearly feel that everyone is working overtime and they are very tired. If you don’t go to A and C, you will get stuck in the United States. The pressure on Huawei is indeed great. Everyone will take the initiative to work overtime. Otherwise, your OKR may not be good, and you will be at risk of being dismissed. Huawei will be the last to be eliminated. . . Huawei’s money is sufficient, whether the overtime pay is 1.5 times or 2 times. Huawei is a great company, and I actually think I am suitable to go, especially since my home is a small city in Henan, and I can’t provide the most critical down payment in Shijiazhuang that everyone analyzes. . . But I thought about going to 54 after another three. Without him, the most important thing may be a kind of military-industrial sentiment of Harbin Institute of Technology. The specifications are strict and the skill is at home. Military orders are like mountains, entrusted by the country. (Of course, it is also related to the 54 cooperation project of my design. I think my design may be more meaningful to the country and realize my own life value than the output of working at Huawei.) Money, I like it very much, but He is not the deciding factor I consider, what I want is a sense of identity, the realization of self-worth, maybe I am too young, haha. I think that as long as the house can be solved, the remaining problems are not big problems. The weather is good. In the future, the child will take the college entrance examination, haha, his father was admitted to the Harbin Institute of Technology from the 70w people in Henan (14 years). I hope this Don’t shame me in the future, boy, although I haven’t found a girlfriend yet. . . The last two sentences of bb, did not say that Huawei must be better than 54, 54 must be better than Huawei. One is for commercial use, and the other is dedicated. It doesn’t make much sense. Only what suits me best, I can only listen to my heart, 54 beckons me! I hope everyone can find a job they like!

heloword
6 months ago

As someone who has been in Huawei and has finally come out of the research institute, I said to LZ earnestly: if you can not go to the research institute, it is not just because the research institute has low money, tiring work, and difficult to go. It is because there is no freedom there, especially those engaged in military products, have to sign a confidentiality agreement. Once signed, it will be difficult to travel abroad in the future, even going to Hong Kong has to be approved. Approval is not the authority of the department, but the local security department for unified approval. Of course, the office is very large and may have the authority to approve, but even if it does, it will be at the level of the leader. So, think clearly before you go. Although the institute has also been reformed, the salary distribution is still relatively dead, but performance and year-end bonuses are generally distributed according to work. The feature there is that busy people die in a hurry, and idle people die in idleness. Busy people are mainly people who are willing to learn things. Don’t worry, as long as you are willing to do it, the leader will definitely value you wisely, so you will be very busy. Of course, if it’s a mess, it’s not bad there. Procrastinate, no one will rush you. You can live comfortably. Of course, at the end of the year, don’t be jealous if you take 10,000 to 20,000 less than others. After all, you didn’t add so many shifts and didn’t do so much work. People really deserve 10,000 to 20,000. And it’s really not much. As a fresh graduate student, if you plan to take care of the elderly and you are from Shijiazhuang, I have nothing to say, go to the research institute, of course, it is best to go to the civil products department. And don’t do anything famous there, just be obscured, so it’s easy, and it’s not much less than those who work overtime all day. If your mind is not yet at retirement age and you have work experience, there is no big difference between Huawei and ZTE. Personally, from the perspective of industry development, Huawei has a better future than ZTE. If your heart is the same as yours and you have no work experience, then Huawei is undoubtedly the best choice. Although you are tired in Huawei, you can learn the formal development process, receive rigorous basic skills training, and gain tens of thousands of lines of code or work experience in various hardware designs. Waiting for you to work for 3 years, this qualification is definitely widely recognized in the industry. Maybe a headhunter will call you by then. As a young man, if you feel the same way, you are not tired at this time, do you have to wait until you are old and tired?

helpyme
6 months ago

As someone who has been in Huawei and has finally come out of the research institute, I said to LZ earnestly: if you can not go to the research institute, it is not just because the research institute has low money, tiring work, and difficult to go. It is because there is no freedom there, especially those engaged in military products, have to sign a confidentiality agreement. Once signed, it will be difficult to travel abroad in the future, even going to Hong Kong has to be approved. Approval is not the authority of the department, but the local security department for unified approval. Of course, the office is very large and may have the authority to approve, but even if it does, it will be at the level of the leader. So, think clearly before you go. Although the institute has also been reformed, the salary distribution is still relatively dead, but performance and year-end bonuses are generally distributed according to work. The feature there is that busy people die in a hurry, and idle people die in idleness. Busy people are mainly people who are willing to learn things. Don’t worry, as long as you are willing to do it, the leader will definitely value you wisely, so you will be very busy. Of course, if it’s a mess, it’s not bad there. Procrastinate, no one will rush you. You can live comfortably. Of course, at the end of the year, don’t be jealous if you take 10,000 to 20,000 less than others. After all, you didn’t add so many shifts and didn’t do so much work. People really deserve 10,000 to 20,000. And it’s really not much. As a fresh graduate student, if you plan to take care of the elderly and you are from Shijiazhuang, I have nothing to say, go to the research institute, of course, it is best to go to the civil products department. And don’t do anything famous there, just be obscured, so it’s easy, and it’s not much less than those who work overtime all day. If your mind is not yet at retirement age and you have work experience, there is no big difference between Huawei and ZTE. Personally, from the perspective of industry development, Huawei has a better future than ZTE. If your heart is the same as yours and you have no work experience, then Huawei is undoubtedly the best choice. Although you are tired in Huawei, you can learn the formal development process, receive rigorous basic skills training, and gain tens of thousands of lines of code or work experience in various hardware designs. Waiting for you to work for 3 years, this qualification is definitely widely recognized in the industry. Maybe a headhunter will call you by then. As a young man, if you feel the same way, you are not tired at this time, do you have to wait until you are old and tired? a Actually, it’s hard to say which one is good. This choice of life path is sometimes fateful. . Once there was a 52, and then opened a subsidiary called Haikang. . Later, of course, what you understand is not that 54 will also open a monopoly branch, but this kind of thing is really inaccurate. It is difficult to say that state-owned enterprises are not as good as Huawei, but I think Huawei is already very good. If you are not sure about the future development, I think Huawei is already good enough. Don’t go to ZTE. Communications is now an industry that is slowing down. If anyone in China’s communications companies can make a profit in this cold winter industry, I think Huawei will take away the bulk of the industry’s profits. Every action seems to me to have a decadent smell. . The brand Nubia has been in existence for many years, and now the marketing is still doing the same as shit. On the whole, it seems that the communications industry has not been doing well in recent years. The general trend in recent years is the combination of Internet cloud data and AI. This will be the next big outlet for the entire electronic information industry.

sina156
6 months ago

Fifty-four did not understand. The things I did in the postgraduate laboratory are the same as those of CLP 41. The direction of Huawei’s research institute is similar. If you talk about technology, it is obvious that the ability of students who go to Huawei has improved faster. After all, it is commercial and more demanding. , More efficient and more standardized. Under normal circumstances, the more you pay, the more you gain. As for the problem of screws in large companies, it is obvious to see whether it is easier to find a job in a small company or in a large company, or to see which company has better people. Other factors such as career, high income, family, and stability are also very important. Edited on 2018-05-17

yahoo898
6 months ago

I have resigned from the office a year later. The career editor and civil servants are really fragrant. Hahaha is not recommended to come to 54, except for the locals in Shijiazhuang. The 20th graduating students have received both of them. Because I had an internship in a certain company, Huawei worked heavy overtime. 54 was chosen later. However, since I started to work, I have experienced a lot of overtime work. I rushed to the tender last night and was temporarily borrowed to review the manuscript. I worked overtime at 1:30 in the morning. I left. The team leader and director are still working overtime. This overtime is due to the system and has nothing to do with people. It is recommended that the landlord do not choose both, and go to other offers! After all, if you can get these two offers, choose other easy ones!

leexin
6 months ago

Looking for a job last year, from Hebei. I went to face 54 and met with the interviewer at first sight, and finally chose Huawei. The 54 places are very regional, if you are not from Hebei, it is recommended not to go. The advantage is the establishment of 54. The housing price in Shijiazhuang just looks high, but the actual purchase of a house is just over 10,000 points. In addition, the establishment of 54 offices will be cancelled next year, but the interviewer promised to maintain the establishment benefits when the establishment was transferred to the enterprise when the interviewer came in. The discriminatory chain is that the establishment is greater than the contract labor and the expatriation. Don’t go if it is not compiled for you.

greatword
6 months ago

Non-Shijiazhuang people go to Huawei. First, the average family cannot afford the housing prices in Shijiazhuang. New houses in Yuhua District, Chang’an District, cost 30,000 square meters, 54 in the West District, and prices outside of the Third Ring Road are still 144,000. The key western district is the countryside and the infrastructure resources are very good Poor, street lights are only available this year, there are very few traffic lights, and there are several village primary schools nearby. If you are in the Laosuo District with a lot of resources, the house price there will be more than 20,000 yuan. Second, Hebei, Shandong, Henan, and Sichuan. For the sake of children, try to avoid them. It is better to go to low-scoring provinces to buy school district housing. Third, if there is a mid-year crisis in the middle of a year, you cannot find a suitable replacement company in this city, and Shijiazhuang’s serious units engaged in RF are those two offices. Fourth, most northern provincial capitals, including Shijiazhuang, are relatively weak in economic and cultural power, and there is nothing to play with. Place is a very important thing.

loveyou
6 months ago

What I knew before was
Low pay and overtime work and old technology.
It sounds good, because Shijiazhuang is too backward and there is no decent enterprise at all. So it was praised by the locals. It’s like you went to North Korea’s ace company. In fact, compared with the Chinese company, it is not ranked at all. understand?
Go to Africa for 5000 a month. You are the local tyrant there. Are you going?
Almost meaning.

strongman
6 months ago

The 54 schools are equally tired. Go to find out the time to do technical get off work. There are disadvantages and things to do. Military use is useless to go to other places and you can’t change jobs.
The advantage is that there is a sense of establishment and local superiority in Shijiazhuang.
Don’t be ashamed of taking out the hundreds of shopping cards during the festival. Personally, I dislike the so-called “this illusory superiority of the best units in the second-tier cities.”
Actually the quality of life is very poor

stockin
6 months ago

ZTE’s embedded software development posts are actually very technically weak, because ZTE’s company has a large scale, fine division of labor, and high mobility (it should not be as big as a chrysanthemum). It needs to ensure the replaceability of positions, slow growth, and many repetitive tasks. , Generally, it takes 3~5 years of work to accumulate enough skills to jump to a better platform. However, according to the current situation of ZTE, it is not recommended to work in the past. The salary and year-end bonus are too low, especially in the first-tier cities, the salary can only be obtained by ordinary institutions, and the workload is still very large. After a round of layoffs, the number of staff will decrease and the workload will increase. Previously, the internal default department advocated 1,246 overtime. Now this situation is even worse. Many people think that there are many famous university students coming to ZTE. In fact, these students are basically in the third and fourth tier cities in the mainland. The ordinary salary in the coastal area is very high in their eyes (the vision is too low, and the salary requirements of the ordinary coastal colleges and universities are higher than They are high). In addition, private companies like ZTE will pay very low provident funds and higher canteen food fees to offset part of their wage costs. In other words, the wages of private companies like ZTE are basically not competitive. The college students who came to work at ZTE basically lost more than half of them after less than a year, and many of them were laid off. Either you can’t get out of the company and hold a meager company, looking forward to the so-called Anju House. Anju House is also a shackle. It usually takes more than 3 years before you get it (3 years is a short period). You have to wait to get the key. You can’t leave your job in the next 8 years. After you get it, you have to endure working overtime or reducing wages, otherwise you will lose a lot.

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