I don’t think the performance release needs to be so extreme. It’s good to have a 100W. Will the 130W consume too much power? It’s not environmentally friendly and the battery life is not good.

Is this definitely not the reverse marketing of the savior? Does it make sense to release stronger performance? Last year, the performance of R9000X’s 2060 Max-Q at 100W is close to that of R7000P, which can dry 2060 to 115W, so I think R9000X as a thin and light game. This product has overturned R7000p but this year is different. 130W 3060 is compared to 100W 3070. The performance difference is only 3%, which is still not compared with models with independent display and direct connection. As we all know, saviors have independent displays and direct connections. The absolute performance of the 130W 3060 may even be upside down to the 100W 3070. Does it make sense for you to say 130W or higher? It can also be seen from the 3DMark TS running scores that the 3070 at 140W is about 20% higher than that at 95W. This is completely the performance of a higher-end graphics card. So whether the release of stronger performance is a gimmick or not depends on the performance-power curve. The same is true on the processor side. The Core 70W is significantly higher than the 45W. If the Ryzen reaches 70W, it will basically increase the power consumption. Environmental protection and battery life? Fn+Q has three gears, the quietest mode is the most environmentally friendly, the most energy-efficient, and the battery life is better. If it is for thinness, appearance, and sacrifice a little performance, there is no problem (refer to the “Creator Book”, the savior also has R9000X). , But if you compare the same-level gaming notebooks with similar weight and thickness, the final comparison is still performance. In fact, the question I think should be asked is: Does the performance release in “Beast Mode” sacrifice surface temperature and noise performance compared to competing products? If so, what is the sacrifice? This is the key to determining whether “performance release” is really strong and practical. Wait and see the actual performance.

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helpmekim
8 months ago

The game book you do not pursue performance, what do you pursue? 4KUHD OLED with Xeon ECC and Quadro? It is recommended that the next door MWS go, the source of the game book is left to us for these stinky games, and the performance release of the flagship MWS is not bad, the Dell 7550 dual-bake is stronger than this, and the performance release of your savior is also It’s not a king of kings, it’s just a “no big problem” mainstream first-line game book, really want to release the performance of X170? Not 51m?

heloword
8 months ago

Xie invites higher specifications for heat dissipation, which means that the machine has stronger performance*, lower daily use temperature* and stable operation under higher power consumption. Even if the performance improvement brought by increased power consumption is not proportional (for example: power consumption +20%, performance +10%, the higher the power consumption, the performance improvement brought by the increased power consumption does not increase accordingly. Power consumption increase The performance improvement brought by the reduction of marginal utility) After limiting the power consumption, the surface temperature of the machine can be lower, and it is more friendly to non-external keyboard scenes (the graphics card can achieve a machine with a full load of 115w. In normal use, you can lock the upper limit At 45+80-90, the temperature is lower, the energy consumption is relatively high, and there is no obvious discount in performance-the maxQ graphics card of r9000x is what it means~) In summary, higher specifications of heat dissipation are meaningful, but significant Not too big. I need to differentiate according to my own standards. Subjectively, I hope that the heat dissipation of the computer is better. After all, it is a device that will not be replaced for several years. It is in place at the beginning. Isn’t it beautiful? Buyer: “I want one with the best heat dissipation~” Within the budget range, it can be done in one step, which saves trouble~ I am not bad for the electricity bill (it is from the school anyway) and it is not mining, so I will not calculate it carefully. Benefits per kilowatt of electricity: “Although the power consumption is higher, the performance has not improved much~” I’ll be rational, and see what kind of machine I buy within my budget. In other words, if it’s a high-power 3060, it’s a good experience. Comparable to 3070, then why should I add money to the 3070 machine? Manufacturer: “I have to have a core selling point to highlight my power” Even if I know that this improvement will not have a big impact, I still have to highlight it, otherwise there is really nothing to say. [1] Different needs, different considerations There is no right or wrong, just stand at a different angle. In light [2] daily use, everyone runs the turbo frequency with high power consumption for a few seconds, and it will come down after running a stage. The heat dissipation of different machines is different. [3] The actual difference is not as huge as the manufacturer said in the advertising.

helpyme
8 months ago

Stay away from the end, where is it going too far? With the current game technology, I don’t even consider an external 4K screen. As far as the FHD/2K resolution is common on 15/16-inch screens, should I play 3A masterpieces? Is ray tracing enabled? Anti-aliasing is still necessary, right? Some people may say that 240/300Hz is not strong, but the difference between 144 and 60 is something most people can experience, right? Even if you are asked to open DLSS2, let alone the savior 2021, the highest configuration is 3080@165W, can the 3090 of the desktop 350W be satisfied? If you say FHD, if you don’t turn on the light and chase the medium quality 60 frames, then you can consider choosing other cheaper previous generation products, or other lighter and thinner models. Even if you like the Lenovo brand and don’t care about the weight, isn’t there a balanced mode and a quiet mode for you to switch? Of course, coupled with the independent display, the 3060 of 130W beats the 3070 that is not straight out of 90W, which is really too much.

sina156
8 months ago

In fact, I was thinking, is this reverse marketing done? It doesn’t know what it does with things every day, so ask XX. As mentioned before, the quality of heat dissipation determines the upper limit of the performance of a laptop. In daily use, the lower limit of the performance of a notebook computer can be very low, and it will not always run at the highest performance because the upper limit of a notebook computer is very high. The highest performance is generally applied to high-load scenarios. The better the performance release, the better experience or fluency can be achieved in the same scenario. The improvement in performance is indeed the smaller the increase in the future. In the early stage, 10% power consumption may be exchanged for 20% performance, and 20% power consumption may be exchanged for 5% performance in the later stage. Then why do we still need to do good heat dissipation? Because of the good heat dissipation of the laptop, the performance can be reduced through performance adjustment, and a better user experience can be achieved. But a laptop with poor heat dissipation has worse performance under the same experience. The experience specifically refers to a laptop computer under high load, the surface temperature, fan noise and other saviors do have performance mode adjustments, and the next generation should be better than this generation.

yahoo898
8 months ago

Will you keep running if you can run? 130W is the full load power consumption of the graphics card. In most cases, it can’t run to full load except for the roaster. Only large games can be close to full load. And when you need battery life, when it’s not plugged in, you won’t be able to stand it even when you play games without plugging in, because the power consumption of a laptop is dynamic. When it’s not plugged in, the computer will automatically reduce power consumption in order to save power. , The power consumption of the computer will not be so high when there is no high load. Then how can your battery life after being unplugged when you plug in 130W? What? Isn’t it bad to plug in a laptop to play? Brother dei, don’t look at the computer anymore and go play on the phone. Cost of electricity? Environmental protection? If the performance improvement level of 100w and 115w in 2060 last year, you just say it is not environmentally friendly.

leexin
8 months ago

Is the radical release of the game’s performance in the wrong direction? “I don’t use it, so you can’t have it?” There are so many 100W RTX3060 and RTX3070 on the market. Isn’t it easy to choose? Finally, there is a machine that can maximize the performance of the graphics card. Why is it still criticized for its excellent performance. . If the performance release is radical because of the extremely high keyboard surface temperature and harsh noise, the criticism is understandable, but the point is not. Moreover, whether it is the R7-5800H and R9-5900HX with the highest release of 80W, or the RTX3060 with the highest release of 130W, the RTX3070 with 140W, and the RTX3080 with 165W can be achieved under their respective full load conditions. In other words, in most cases, you cannot reach this power consumption, so it will not consume particularly power. In addition, the Rescuer 2021 series are equipped with a large 80mah battery and all series support PD fast charging, so the battery life you are worried about is no problem. More importantly, the rescuer supports “Fn+Q” performance mode switching. You don’t need to switch to balanced mode for extreme performance. The beast mode cannot be turned on when you unplug the power adapter. Finally, for gaming laptops, performance release and cooling performance may be more important than hardware configuration, especially for RTX30 series graphics cards. By the way, this year’s 30-series graphics card gaming notebooks are also more important than the direct connection mode. Wouldn’t it be said that this power consumption is not environmentally friendly?

greatword
8 months ago

It depends on the graphics card technology. The 115w 2060 with TSMC technology used last year is really unnecessary. The performance of less than 3% is really not worth it. It is really a steep increase in power consumption. But with Samsung’s 8nm process this year, low power consumption is not as good as performance under high power consumption. Generally, the percentage of improved performance is half of the percentage of wattage increase, and it can be as low as one-third. What can you do? Summary: Old Huang is dead

loveyou
8 months ago

I think the meaning of this question is dubious. What does a game notebook do without performance? Is it to do screen performance? Do you look good? Do battery life? This is purely buying caskets and returning beads, putting the cart before the horse. To make a thin and light notebook, you can focus on battery life, appearance, screen performance, and then take into account performance. This is no problem. For example, the lightweight notebook with the main interface and battery life of the Zhan 66, although the performance is not top, but the 15W Ryzen 5000 Absolutely enough to use. Hewlett-Packard (HP) and 66 new Ryzen Edition 14-inch thin and light notebooks (Zen3 Jingdong ¥ 4499.00 to buy this is a good notebook, because the meaning of thin and light notebooks is given: portability, sustainable use ability and good performance to meet the use of Demand. What about the savior? As a game book, the greatest significance or value should be [playing games], and then taking into account productivity needs and office needs. Regardless of whether you play games or productivity, in this thickness, the most concerned It’s definitely not battery life or portability—it’s performance. In other words, no matter what it is used for, the most important thing is performance. So let’s look at this issue again, the game performance of the 2021 Savior. Too much, is it a false proposition? The savior allows consumers to get the best performance and gaming experience through better heat dissipation, independent display and direct connection, and full power consumption graphics card. What’s wrong with this? and , High-performance release does not mean that your computer will continue to run at full power consumption, nor does it mean that your computer will continue to be hot, because at full power consumption, whether your computer is hot or not is determined by your heat dissipation capacity. Under the heat dissipation of the 5 heat pipe and the 3 heat pipe, the temperature of the computer keyboard is definitely different. More importantly, all Lenovo systems have Fn+Q. You can switch between different performances according to your needs. When you need top performance to play When playing games or creating, then you can turn on the beast mode; when you don’t need top performance, but only need medium performance to play games, such as simple games like LOL, you can choose the balanced mode; when you just watch a movie or write something In word, the low-power quiet mode can meet your needs. This is not unique to the rescuer. Basic mainstream Lenovo notebooks (Xiaoxin, YOGA, etc.) are available. One with ultra-high performance online rescue Or, combined with Fn+Q performance tuning, and performance based on demand, there is nothing bad, I agree, nothing is too much.

strongman
8 months ago

I saw this question yesterday. At first I thought it was a reverse marketing by the brand. But when I read the question log, I found that it was not. The questioner was not anonymous at the time. He was actually asking this question seriously. Seriously answer that the performance release is not overdone. From the current news, the Savior series does not “release performance for performance release.” The excellent performance release of the Savior series allows consumers to get tangible benefits. Yes, and did not sacrifice other user experience for this. As for battery life, the game was originally not for battery life considerations. When you are not plugged in, all manufacturers’ games will limit performance in exchange for battery life. Not stupid, they think about this kind of thing to the end. Personal view is that without sacrificing other aspects of user experience, the performance release is of course the stronger the better. After all, I can choose to spend only 50 yuan for 100 yuan, but 100 yuan It is impossible to buy something for 120 yuan

stockin
8 months ago

“It’s great to have a 100W. Will 130W consume too much power, be environmentally friendly and have poor battery life” is the question asked? What is not environmentally friendly? It’s the first time I have heard of this black law. For example, when we complained to AMD last year that Lenovo’s CPU performance release exceeded AMD’s “regulations”? Back to the product itself. The performance is not over-released, but there is always a weird feeling. 1: Take R9000K as an example in terms of performance. This year’s R9000K’s CPU power consumption is 80W, this is a must (for the reason, because of AMD’s CPU, the power consumption needs to be 75W or more, otherwise it’s a reverse drive). In addition, Lenovo thinks better than There are many other manufacturers, such as looking for 4BG memory everywhere… The graphics card is 3080 (actually the desktop 3070 core), and the power consumption is 165W. It is estimated to be the result of DB2.0, and the actual performance should be lower than the desktop 3070. The actual performance depends on the evaluation, so I won’t talk about it here. 2: The appearance design has many screen highlights, and Lenovo has also publicized it a lot and will not repeat the publicity. But there are too many black spots-how did you design a double chin? Ugly dead. The Lenovo nameplate of the R9000P has been adjusted, but the R9000X has not been adjusted. The Y9000X laser printing was pretty good before. Now the nameplate does not match the material of the A side and C side itself, so you just insist on this? To be honest, if it is really Lenovo’s BOSS, it must rely on this to highlight the brand regardless of consumers’ feelings. It can only be said that there is a problem with the corporate culture. Last year, the 9000K RGB was overturned. I don’t know how this year. In general, the current problem of the savior gives me the feeling that I want to add all the things I like in all aspects, such as performance, brand identity, RGB, but the lack of a unified design language has led to the creation. Things are like a hodgepodge. Every aspect looks good, but when combined, there are flaws in every aspect.

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