I am particularly interested in heraldry, so I assembled one with Chinese elements by myself. The one below is the coat of arms of the German Empire. Can you compare the two coats of arms?

The meaning of the double dragon coat of arms: The sun and the moon in the middle represent our China (the universe is the same as the sun and the moon, and China is the same country). The 12 radiances surrounding the sun and the moon illuminate the land of China. The two blue dragons symbolize that we Chinese are dragons. The descendant of, blue also symbolizes peace, and the other layer represents the meaning of blue and white porcelain. The peony flower under the dragon symbolizes the grace and beauty of Chinese women. The mirror image underneath represents our Chinese doctrine of the mean and the local religion-Taoism. , The four gods Wadang in the middle of the shield are the green dragon, vermilion bird, white tiger, and Xuanwu. These four beasts will always defend our Chinese land and people. The white sword in the middle symbolizes the Chinese people’s abundant martial virtues and our belief and spirit that we are never afraid of sacrifice.

Let me start with the conclusion: European coat of arms is a graphical language with complicated grammar. The heraldry’s precise transmission of information is the primary, but beautification is secondary. Any pattern that does not follow the rules can not convey information, and naturally it is not a heraldry. The pattern of the subject is such a pattern. The rules of heraldry generally have several aspects (written from memory, with omissions and suggestions). First, the color, white and silver are common in the heraldry, and it is regarded as one color, and yellow and gold are also common. These two colors are called metallic colors, and the other colors are non-metallic colors. Metal colors are not allowed to be adjacent. (Except for a few particularly powerful coats of arms such as the Kingdom of Jerusalem) The coat of arms of the Kingdom of Jerusalem, a rare example of mixed metal colors, is generally not allowed in the second shape. The common coat of arms is generally a shield shape, the coat of arms of aristocratic women is a diamond shape, and the coat of arms of a sinner is an upside down shield to show humiliation. The third is structure. When several families are married, the nobles who inherit multiple family lineages will put the coats of arms of several families into their own coat of arms in the order of respecting males, left females and right on the upper left. The royal coat of arms of England, the golden lion (leopard) on the red background represents England, and the iris represents France. Britain has long insisted on its claim to France for a long time, so the iris flower has existed in its coat of arms for a long time. From the perspective of the quadrant, the upper left is the iris flower, which represents the royal family’s belief that the heritage of France is higher than or equal to the heritage of England. At the same time, pay attention to the white railing symbol at the top of the coat of arms, which means that this is the coat of arms of the eldest son. The fourth is the pattern. Generally nobles can draw their own patterns according to their own fortune origin, but there are still some rules and fixed meanings. For example, the four-legged beast on the coat of arms of the British royal family is called a lion facing the front (face facing the audience), and the one facing the audience (the kind used by the British royal family) is called a leopard. It has nothing to do with which one looks like. The leopard has a derogatory meaning in heraldry, so the British royal family has always described their heraldry as a four-legged beast, and never mentions the leopard. A coat of arms in the history of the British Empire. From a quarterly perspective, the upper left is England (including lions and irises), and the upper right red lion is Scotland (Scotland is a lion in the heraldic sense, and the three in England are actually leopards). The lower left harp is Ireland. Since there is no fourth coat of arms, fill in England again in the lower right. The order of weight of the three territories can also be seen from the coat of arms. Demonstration of heraldry combination inheritance, among which the diamond is the female heraldry and the fifth is the fixed pattern. A fixed pattern on the coat of arms will convey additional information. For example, adding a railing-shaped block (E turned 90 degrees clockwise) means that the person is the eldest son of the family and has the right to inherit. Finally, other accessories, such as the shield holders on the left and right, and the crown on the top, generally reflect the status of the family. They are part of the large coat of arms used on grand occasions, but they are not the core necessary elements of the coat of arms. One of the most complicated heraldry. There are more than 700 divisions. One of the best things in heraldry is that the heraldic officer can record all the elements on a very complicated heraldry in written form, and then give it to another one. The heraldic officer can redraw a coat of arms with the same meaning (the picture may be different) according to the description, and tell the family inheritance of the coat of arms, and even directly say which nobleman’s coat of arms it is. This kind of fine information transmission is the essence of heraldry. And the pattern of the subject, analyze the meaning of the pattern. Let’s first look at the twelve-pointed star in the middle of the sun and moon and the red and blue colors, which were the symbols used in the Ming Dynasty. But the logo was used five times repeatedly, for unknown reasons (megatrons?) Then there were four beasts in each dynasty, representing the southeast, northwest, and the top position of the shield did not follow the southeast, northwest. Then there is the five-clawed dragon, which represents the royal rank, but the dragon is incomplete and lacks half of its body, which is more taboo. There are also anti-yin and yang fish below. I don’t know what the flower means or what it means. It may be a pure beautification function. If you want to express the meaning, it seems that there is not much meaning (China does not have heraldry, and it is impossible to accurately understand the intent of heraldry) If it’s just for good looks, the color scheme and complexity determine it is impossible to see where to go. And it’s really not practical to be so complicated. It’s hard to copy either has meaning or it’s easy to use. It’s better to choose one of the two.

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helpmekim
7 months ago

Some friends said that I was euphemistic about criticism… Then I won’t be euphemistic. This is not a heraldry, a heraldry is a kind of graphic signal, which solves the needs of many scenes such as unsuitable for reading text or the other party’s illiteracy. For example, on the battlefield, you can see who is from a long distance away, and two illiterate aristocrats who have never met in a joust can immediately know who the other party belongs to. In other words, heraldry is very similar to things like semaphores/signal flags. So in order to achieve universal readability, there must be a set of format standards. The direct translation of the elements in the format is a paragraph of text describing the holder of the coat of arms, and this translation can be repeated and reversed. That is to say, it can be changed into a picture according to the text, and the picture can be turned into a text, no matter how many times it will not deviate. According to this standard, your coat of arms is a sick sentence. The conclusion is that you are not a heraldry. The aesthetics of the heraldry is firstly based on logic and format, and secondly, factors such as color matching/structure are considered (in fact, the color matching structure is also regular, and the available colors are very limited) , Or that beauty is not the element of heraldry (you are not beautiful either). The last awkward problem is that countries with national coats of arms (in fact, national emblems) such as the United Kingdom/Spain, whose coats of arms mainly describe the composition of the royal family, which can be regarded as “feudal remnants.” Or after the colonial era, there were also many colonial coats of arms that were “combined with the earth and the ocean.” Their symbols and colors were much richer than the traditional coats of pigs, but they still abide by the basic rules of heraldry. And we have the national emblem. The content of the national emblem is reasonable and not feudal. It represents our country well. Why bother to get a twisted Chinese coat of arms? On the contrary, there is a strange feeling of being colonized (maybe I am too sensitive). Having said that, add something else. Because modern design (architectural landscape/industry/graphics, etc.) originated in Europe and the United States, especially the graphic design is heavily influenced by the heraldic system/semiotic system. A more obvious example is the logo design. Some European and American brand logos over a century ago There is a process of evolution from “heraldry style” to modern logo. Although our country had a similar symbol system before, its application was not as extensive and mature as Europe and America, and we were directly connected to modern design, but there were also problems of “unacceptable” such as the large difference between Chinese characters and Latin letters. Therefore, our country is in In graphic design, especially logo design, there are still many underlying issues that need to be resolved. This problem is also common in other non-European and American countries similar to ours, but there are also special ones, such as Japan. Japan itself has a symbol system that is very similar to Europe and the United States. Therefore, Japan has a high standard in the field of graphic and logo design. On the one hand, it is in line with international standards, on the other hand, it has its own uniqueness. No way. First of all, if you don’t understand the rules of heraldry, then you can’t say how to localize it. This kind of rule form is larger than the symbolic design of visual performance. The important thing is whether it is in compliance with the regulations. If it is not, it is meaningless. Unless you say this is a logo, not a heraldry. Not to mention the use of colors and elements, a great mix and match of styles and times.

heloword
7 months ago

The beauty of the coat of arms should come from the historical heritage it represents. Most of the ancient European articles are based on a family. After different historical stages, they merge or merge each other through marriage, co-ownership, etc., and the family coat of arms will also incorporate the elements of the merged family. The simplest British flag is not designed as a whole, but a flag of other kingdoms merged from different historical periods. The Spanish national emblem represents the five kingdoms that made up Spain in history: the golden castle on the upper left corner with a red background represents the Kingdom of Castile, the pink lion on the upper right corner with a white background represents the Kingdom of Leon, and the red and yellow vertical bar at the lower left corner represents the Kingdom of Aragon. The golden chain on the red bottom in the lower corner represents the Kingdom of Navarre, the red pomegranate with green leaves on the bottom white background represents Granada, and the three irises on the blue bottom in the middle are the symbols of the Bourbon family. Let alone the super stitched monster of the Holy Roman Empire. Although the coat of arms you design has various traditional Chinese elements, this is actually a groundless castle in the sky, and there are conflicts in the elements you use. For example, since there are already four beasts in the middle of the shield, the head of the four beasts is the Eastern Blue Dragon. Why are there two blue dragons behind Shan? Besides, the dragon behind, although the five-clawed dragon is used, the blue dragon is not orthodox. According to the five elements, the yellow dragon is orthodox. If the dragon represents China, why put two dragons? As the saying goes, the sky has no two days, and the country has no two masters. This has the meaning of contention. Is our country a two-headed politics? For example, the emblem of Europe, if you put two Jesus on it, is it a bit discordant? Moreover, the two dragons have the meaning of two dragons playing with pearls. Put the sun and the moon in the middle, whether the sun and the moon are respected or the two dragons are respected? There are also roses and sharp swords, which are not Chinese traditional elements. Roses can be replaced with peony, and sharp swords can be replaced with ceremonial weapons, such as: golden melon, axe and axe in the sky, and dance

helpyme
7 months ago

For the subject, laymen, let me first say that the coat of arms you designed is very beautiful, but the fly in the ointment is that it is too European and the oriental elements are not reflected. Let me talk about the oriental elements of your coat of arms. If I read the four emblems of the shield correctly, they should be Qinglong, White Tiger, Suzaku, and Xuanwu, and the style of painting is biased towards the Han Dynasty, and the two Chinese dragons in the background are unfortunately painted. The wind is too close to the modern, a bit uncoordinated. Finally, there are the two Tai Chi at the bottom, and the oriental elements are basically reflected. Then the kite shield unique to Europe in the Middle Ages, the rose of European origin, and the European style of half-handed sword seen from the handle, led to the final result with a sense of disharmony. I think you can change it a little bit. You can change the shape of the shield to round shields, square shields or dovetail shields, which are commonly used in ancient Eastern warfare. Then, for the problem of swords, you can refer to the common bamboo hilt in the Spring and Autumn Period and the Warring States Period. You can also use Tang swords or Longquan swords made with modern craftsmanship as a template for modification. Finally, there is the issue of flowers. The ancient dynasties of our country mentioned hibiscus, peony, lotus and kapok the most about flowers. During the period, peony was the flower species closest to the recognition of the Chinese people, and was once regarded as the national flower (although not). Let me add another sentence. The description of dragon colors in Chinese stories and picture scrolls has always been only green dragon (green), white dragon (white), black dragon (water dragon or Han Dynasty), red dragon (commonly used Chinese dragon after the founding of New China), Golden dragon (the most well-known symbol of ancient imperial power), I have never heard of the blue dragon. I don’t think it is necessary to use blue tone to force the intention, just use red and gold. Add a paragraph: I checked the information and made a brief explanation, thanks to my friend Mikus for reminding me. In history, the Qing Dynasty really used the blue dragon as a symbol of the flag, representing the yellow-bottomed blue dragon-playing pearl triangle flag in the middle and late Qing period and the Qing Dynasty flag that was adopted at the end of the year with a rectangular yellow-bottomed blue dragon playing pearl flag. Qing Dynasty porcelain prefers blue and white porcelain, so many porcelains (as we all know, dragons are only used by the royal family) are also printed with blue dragons. In addition, the nine-striped dragon on the Qing dragon robe is somewhat different from the nine-striped dragon in our impression. It can be roughly divided into a blue dragon with a gold (red, white) background and a gold dragon with a blue (red, white) background. It seems that there are still Heilong, I don’t know if it is right, this can only be answered by a big guy. Qing emperors usually wear different types of dragon robes according to events such as court meetings and sacrifices. I will not subdivide the types of clothing. After all, I am a layman, and I always thought that there was only a golden dragon. The use of blue dragons in the Qing Dynasty also had some influence on people’s perception during the Republic of China. Many paintings, sculptures, and porcelains in the Republic of China have also been painted with blue dragons. Regarding the subject of the subject using blue dragons as the base, I can’t make any comments. Generally speaking, red and gold are more optimistic. After all, modern Chinese have more affection for these two colors of dragons. The above is my rough language from a layman. If you offend, please bear with me.

sina156
7 months ago

The above few high praise answers have summed it up very well. First of all, heraldry is a systematic study, and each object in the heraldry has its fixed meaning. Not to mention anything else, if you add a shield beast to this coat of arms, then I assume that this coat of arms you designed is a full-body coat of arms used in formal occasions. Since it is a full body coat of arms, your level of coat of arms naturally must include helmets, crowns, crests and wreaths, but you have not designed these things. As mentioned by the Gao Zan answerer above, each part of the coat of arms has its own inherent meaning and rules. If you do not design the elements, there are also inherent design specifications. For example, helmets, helmets of different orientations and styles represent the different classes of heraldic holders. For example, the helmets of emperors or kings are usually purely frontal golden helmets. As for the design, I really feel that the coat of arms you design is not good enough, not to say that the stacking or complexity is not good, on the contrary, I like the complicated design with just the right stacking elements. The problem with your design is that the stacked elements themselves are not good-looking, and each element is not good-looking if it is picked up separately, and it is even more not good-looking when stacked together. Send a few pieces of heraldic designs that are personally favorite and related to the East.

yahoo898
7 months ago

I don’t understand essays, but from a layman’s point of view, the first color is too bright, the contrast is too high, and the second is too gaudy. The second is too daring to imitate Figure 2. Although many badges in Europe are similar in structure, I still feel that the imitation traces are a bit heavy. Third, there are too many and repeated use of elements. Qinglong, White Tiger, Suzaku and Xuanwu are all on top. Generally, there are only two kinds of animals in European emblems. There are too many dragons. I don’t understand it anyway, but I feel that way. Overall, it’s okay. It’s the first time I saw China article design.

leexin
7 months ago

I’m not an art student, but I feel that the badge you made is really good-looking. It just looks good. Just like a beautiful woman or a handsome guy, only a skin but no soul. What can be called a badge must be given its unique meaning. Every detail and every element on the badge has rich connotations. More importantly, publishing through “authority” gives even more sacred, honorable, and spiritual connotations! The imperial double dragon treasure star is a treasure star (now called a medal) awarded in the seventh year of Guangxu of the Qing Dynasty in China. The Meritorious Medal, commonly known as the Blue Max Medal, is the highest medal of Prussia and the German Empire. Or known as the “Big Blue Cross of the Order of Prussia”. These are two examples in ancient and modern China and abroad. In my opinion, an art layman, I feel that it is not as “good-looking” as you made. But when it comes to badges, your work, I don’t feel any authority. Even if you give it a lot of meaning, you can’t be familiar with it. In other words, there is no widespread recognition, let alone an “authoritative” release. In addition, some badges have simple designs, but they cannot conceal their majesty and sacredness. Badges are not for beauty.

greatword
7 months ago

I think it’s okay, my eyes are bright! But have a question? ? ? This shield, sword, or something is the design logic of European heraldry. Shouldn’t the Oriental ones be like watangs and seals? At least they should be the Japanese heraldry? Of course, if it is to design a European coat of arms with oriental elements, then I think it’s OK. In general, inheritance will be shown on the coat of arms. It’s best to explain it by the side, what are the meanings in it. I can only see that the sun and the moon are in the sky, shining in all directions for eight days. The peony blossoms rich and prosperous. Ssangyong embraces the center of the guard.

loveyou
7 months ago

Evaluation: “Learn Chinese and Western”. I don’t understand Western history and culture, nor Chinese history and culture. The content is illogical and ugly. The idea is not new. The combination of Chinese and Western coat of arms played it more than a hundred years ago, but after more than a hundred years, they will not advance and retreat. What is this? This is the “Twelve Chapter National Emblem”, the first national emblem in Chinese history, also known as the Jiahe National Emblem. Practical use from 1913 to 1928, designers: Lu Xun, Qian Daosun, Xu Shoushang. Pattern description (Author Lu Xun): I would like to press the national emblem of the Western Kingdom. It has a long history, and its charm is in the individual, while Man Yan is a country. The former Greek warrior, Mongolian Shield went to battle, chooses what he likes, and painted it on Shield to show the difference. Down to Rome, the inheritance is endless. When the crusades prosper, they gather the scholars of the nations to become teachers. They are afraid of the indiscernibility of their miscellaneousness. They each use the coat of arms of a team of officers as their identification. This will be expanded and used for one family, and then for one family, and even more for one. country. Therefore, the image of Quan Yu is the name of the celebrity and the individual; or it is the cross, which emphasizes religion. And is the national emblem, also according to historical facts, because there are still many crosses, or shield-shaped, duplicated as the genus of the banner of Dagon, which is regarded as algae decoration. Although there is a newly created country, the initial development of the emblem will not be able to go out of its circle, and the literature is limited. Today, the Republic of China has designated Jiahe as the national emblem, and the image is simple in quality and should be assisted, so as to be able to drive the emblem and be carefree and simple. However, history is unique, different from Ossi, and those who love it, this can’t be used. According to the history, the new picture has been updated, and the pick has its own foundation and the sage has the right. Examining all Zaiji, the source of the ancients is like a dragon. However, it has been overwhelmed and cannot be drawn. After thinking more about it, there are twelve chapters. Seen above in “Book”, its source is also far away. Since the Han and Tang Dynasties, the commentators have said: the sun, the moon and the stars, take their photos; mountains, take their towns; dragons, take their changes; Chinese insects, take their texts; Zongyi, take their filial piety; algae, take Its cleanness; fire, whichever is clear; powdered rice, whichever raises it; whichever breaks it; whichever is distinguished. The most virtuous, there is no lack of preparation. From its point of view, it is suitable for each other, and it is intricately combined, and it is proposed to be the emblem of the Republic of China. The method of painting lies in the center and the center of Golden Harvest. The shape of Jiahe is taken from the “Five Ruitu” stone inscriptions of the Han Dynasty. Do it, so it’s a shield. It is dried and topped with flour rice. The sky above is the sun, and the bottom is the mountain. However, because the mountain is a true form, there is no place to worry about it, and it is knotted into a seal script, and the space is filled with black. On the left and right, there are dragons and Chinese insects, each holding the Yi. Long Fu has a beautiful body, and the moon belongs to a horn. Hua Chong is the first to wear a star. Any changes to this pretentiousness are all based on seeking harmony and reconciliation. The national emblem is roughly, and it seems that it has already appeared slightly. A reproduced five-sui Jiahe simple emblem, which is used when it is not required to be complicated. There is also a curvilinear double-sui Jiahe simple emblem, which is used for the belongings of the paper. If those who are deeper than painting things, don’t use color, to make the image more beautiful and superior, then Shuji can express the virtues of the Chinese nation, and promote the world.

strongman
7 months ago

several questions.
First, the practice of assembling multiple emblems in a single coat of arms can only be done when multiple countries (territories, families) are merged. Chinese culture is unique and cannot be done like this.
Second, should I get a Chinese crown on the top of the coat of arms? You put your sword on the top of the coat of arms, making people feel like a warrior rather than an empire.
Third, the shield Ssangyong poses incorrectly. The shield beast must support the shield.

stockin
7 months ago

The two dragons on the left and right plus the dragons on the shield feel a bit too much, and then the four elephants are placed together very strangely, as if they are displayed for decoration. The various colors of the European shields express that this family is married to other families, and the four elephants only express four. position. The following two Tai Chis don’t know what to express. This peony is also weird, and it is very uncoordinated to put it in. I remember the sun and moon flag in the middle is a nautical flag, and it doesn’t match with other elements. I don’t like the national emblem designed by Yuan Datou. It feels too expensive. You are more expensive than his version. I also don’t like the German national emblem too much. It is too expensive. The two people in the picture don’t know what to do. Among the various badges, the only figures I can understand are Jesus and Saint George. I think we can use the bronzes from the Shang and Zhou Dynasties and Erlitou sites as materials, such as the arrangement of stars, some simple patterns of clothes in the pre-Qin period, as well as altars, ancient city planning legends, and some folk symbols that have been circulating for more than two thousand years. These are used as materials. . The key is that the coat of arms should be clear and clear, not too flowery or too complicated, choose no more than 3 animals (unless you make a bunch of birds), no more than two types of animals, and the patterns of the elements should be able to communicate with each other, not Simple stacking. For example, the four elephants are used to represent the stars, but each elephant in the picture is only equipped with two five-pointed stars. There is no smell of the stars, and the four elephants look like totems. If a five-pointed star is indispensable, it is best not to add animals, and the five-pointed star is a relatively modern pattern, which is generally used on a flag, and the use of a five-pointed star on the coat of arms feels inconsistent. Personal point of view, I haven’t learned this, nor have I learned about heraldry, I guess it’s not good at all, please forgive me.

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